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kumar pandey



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PostPosted: November 27 2008  Reply with quote

Hi can you please have a look : http://cosmocoffee.info/viewtopic.php?t=1276

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R.
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Paniez Paykari



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PostPosted: December 15 2010  Reply with quote

Hi All,

Does the C_\ells in the planck.dat file have to be necessarily smooth? Or can we have a simulated C_\ell from a CMB map? I appreciate the help.

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Antony Lewis



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PostPosted: December 15 2010  Reply with quote

You can use a simulation, just don't expect the posteriors to peak at exactly the simulation input values.
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Paniez Paykari



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PostPosted: December 15 2010  Reply with quote

Thank you. So, that means I should expect some bias? I can trust the errors though?
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Alex Conley



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PostPosted: April 23 2011  Reply with quote

I'm a bit confused – why, in the example code, does
one write CTT+Nl and CEE+noiseFac*Nl, but
does not include any noise term when writing out
CTE?
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Antony Lewis



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PostPosted: April 23 2011  Reply with quote

Just assuming the simple case where there is no noise correlation between Q/U and T.
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Alessio Notari



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PostPosted: July 11 2011  Reply with quote

Hello,
I am trying to use the all_l_exact format on CosmoMC with the above procedure with some C_l table produced by the Healpix package anafast, and it works well :) .


One simple question: does it work only for full-sky data or should I do something more complicated (such as using planck_like.f90) when I put a mask with anafast on my sky maps?

And by the way, what is the planck_like.f90 routine doing exactly and how do I use it? (I cannot find any instructions on the web) ...

thanks a lot for your help!
Alessio
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Antony Lewis



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PostPosted: July 12 2011  Reply with quote

Planck_like implements the approximation of 0801.0554 as well as simple schemes like full-sky and Gaussian. You probably should use something that accounts for the covariance when using cut-sky data.

For sample data files see the bottom of
http://cosmologist.info/weightmixer/
or the python exact simulation script supplied with most recent cosmomc.
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Alessio Notari



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PostPosted: July 12 2011  Reply with quote

Thanks for the answer.

Though, I am not sure if I understand the way to preceed. How do I tell to cosmomc that there is nontrivial covariance due to cut-sky?

Moreover, in the all_lexact format why is there an fsky column if this is valid only for full sky?

cheers
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Alessio Notari



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PostPosted: July 14 2011  Reply with quote

I guess I should probably use the .newdat format for the data, which is related to this:

http://cosmocoffee.info/viewtopic.php?p=4068
and to this:
http://www.astro.caltech.edu/~tjp/CBI/data2006/index.html

Could anyone clarify if this is the right way to proceed and how this format can be used for mock data? (there are no answers to the questions in the above link)

thanks again
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Jason Dossett



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PostPosted: February 28 2012  Reply with quote

Antony Lewis wrote:
Planck_like implements the approximation of 0801.0554 as well as simple schemes like full-sky and Gaussian. You probably should use something that accounts for the covariance when using cut-sky data.

For sample data files see the bottom of
http://cosmologist.info/weightmixer/
or the python exact simulation script supplied with most recent cosmomc.


Hi,
I am trying to use the makePerfectForcast.py python script to create a new dataset for some future simulated data. I understand how to produce the input files:
lensedTotClFileRoot and lensPotential.
I am however unsure how exactly to construct the reconNoise input file. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Jason
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Antony Lewis



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PostPosted: February 28 2012  Reply with quote

You only need reconNoise if you want to include CMB lensing reconstruction (in which case it is the reconstruction noise variance, which you can calculate for isotropic full sky case using standard result involving 3j sum).
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Jason Dossett



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PostPosted: March 03 2012  Reply with quote

Thanks Antony.
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